Concerto Piano 4-5
曲目リスト
1 | Pno Con No.4 in G, Op.58: I. Allegro Moderato |
2 | Pno Con No.4 in G, Op.58: II. Andante Con Moto |
3 | Pno Con No.4 in G, Op.58: III. Rondo: Vivace |
4 | Pno Con No.5 in E Flat, Op.73 'Emperor': I. Allegro |
5 | Pno Con No.5 in E Flat, Op.73 'Emperor': II. Adagio Un Poco Mosso |
6 | Pno Con No.5 in E Flat, Op.73 'Emperor': III. Rondo: Allegro |
商品の説明
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While these 1951 recordings receive their finest sonic incarnation to date here, little could be done to bring the opaque, distant ambience into better focus. There's much to admire, pianistically speaking, in Walter Gieseking's crystalline sonority and inhumanly even fingers. More often than not, however, one perceives Gieseking as an obviously great and stylish musician going through the motions. I prefer his more effervescent stereo remakes from a few years later, which benefit from Alceo Galleria's less blended, more clear-cut orchestral textures and incisive rhythm in the finales. For a more fiery, thrusting Emperor in Gieseking's hands, try his 1944 effort with Arthur Rother at the helm. --Jed Distler
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- 製品サイズ : 1.02 x 14.22 x 12.45 cm; 113.4 g
- メーカー : Emd Classics Imports--Allegro
- EAN : 0724356660427
- 製造元リファレンス : 724356660427
- オリジナル盤発売日 : 2001
- SPARSコード : ADD
- レーベル : Emd Classics Imports--Allegro
- ASIN : B000006319
- ディスク枚数 : 1
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トップレビュー
上位レビュー、対象国: 日本
レビューのフィルタリング中に問題が発生しました。後でもう一度試してください。
2014年4月23日に日本でレビュー済み
1951/6月に、フィルハーモニア管弦楽団の力を借りて録音されたもの。最初は、壮年期のカラヤンと晩年のギーゼキングという取り合わせで、テイストの違いも感じられたので、やや不安を持ったが、推進力の強さという不思議な取り合わせの持つ魅力で、お気に入りのCDとなった。ベルリンフィルを率いたワイセンベルグとの録音の方が完成度は高いかも知れないが、こちらの古い録音の方が、私には興味深い。カラヤンを好まないタイプの方でも、これは聞ける演奏だと思う。
他の国からのトップレビュー
NICOLINI ANTONELLO
5つ星のうち5.0
Beethoven ed un grande interprete
2019年10月5日にイタリアでレビュー済みAmazonで購入
Secondo ABM la versione definitiva del quarto concerto
John K. Gayley
5つ星のうち5.0
this is grand...like elegant strings of pearls
2012年10月9日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
Oh what fun. Grab this CD while you can.
One of the other reviewers has gone into tremendous useful detail on the provenance of these recordings, and compared them to (almost) contemporary recordings with Walter Gieseking and Herbert Von Karajan, noting that these renditions with Alceo Galliera at the helm surely take the prize. He's right. This will be a CD I return to often.
Everybody knows about Gieseking and Debussy, but for some reason I (and perhaps others) came late to the party featuring Gieseking and Beethoven. Silly me. What a great match. This is old world--perhaps best described as an older style of playing (at least on the Emperor, if not on both). Gieseking's pianism and technical prowess is fabulous, but he puts greater emphasis on the soul, and the arc of each concerto. It fits like a glove, in my opinion.
I'd be lying if I claimed I'd heard of the conductor Alceo Galliera before stumbling across this recording, but his accompaniment is spot-on. The more I delve into historical recordings, the more I realize the nascent age of jet-set superstar conductors in the '50s left many, many fine musicians on the side of the runway, no fault of their own. Galliera is one such.
The shelves groan with combinations of Beethoven's 4th and 5th. So many to choose from. And these days, so much emphasis on muscular pyrotechnics at the expense of soul. Which is why I love this disc; plenty of soul, and a perfect fit with Beethoven. With a gun to my head I would have to admit I marginally prefer Gieseking's 1945 recording of the Emperor with the Berlin Radio Orchestra and Artur Rother (Music and Arts), mainly for a greater sense of urgency, forward momentum, and sublime slow movement. (All this despite the attempts of a Berlin flak tower to add its own unique percussion cadenza during an Allied daylight bombing mission). The Music & Arts recording also features a lovely 1st concerto with Kubelik at the helm..a later recording--no flack guns.
However, if you're looking for an old world combination of 4th/5th, this EMI CD with Galliera/Geiseking is one you might try. Its no accident that when I reach for combinations of the 4th/5th, its seldom that I reach for something featuring a living artist and a recent rave review...why is that? Could it be they seldom add much to what these long-gone artists gave us?
If your definition of "old world" extends through about 1960, see these others as well, both of which I can heartily recommend:
Beethoven: Piano Concertos 4 & 5
Piano Concertos 4 & 5
Gieseking Plays Beethoven Concertos for Piano: No. 1 in C, Op. 15 & No. 5 in E-flat, Op. 73
However, if you insist on something featuring living artists and up-to-the-minute sound, try this;
Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 4 in G Major and Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat Major
One of the other reviewers has gone into tremendous useful detail on the provenance of these recordings, and compared them to (almost) contemporary recordings with Walter Gieseking and Herbert Von Karajan, noting that these renditions with Alceo Galliera at the helm surely take the prize. He's right. This will be a CD I return to often.
Everybody knows about Gieseking and Debussy, but for some reason I (and perhaps others) came late to the party featuring Gieseking and Beethoven. Silly me. What a great match. This is old world--perhaps best described as an older style of playing (at least on the Emperor, if not on both). Gieseking's pianism and technical prowess is fabulous, but he puts greater emphasis on the soul, and the arc of each concerto. It fits like a glove, in my opinion.
I'd be lying if I claimed I'd heard of the conductor Alceo Galliera before stumbling across this recording, but his accompaniment is spot-on. The more I delve into historical recordings, the more I realize the nascent age of jet-set superstar conductors in the '50s left many, many fine musicians on the side of the runway, no fault of their own. Galliera is one such.
The shelves groan with combinations of Beethoven's 4th and 5th. So many to choose from. And these days, so much emphasis on muscular pyrotechnics at the expense of soul. Which is why I love this disc; plenty of soul, and a perfect fit with Beethoven. With a gun to my head I would have to admit I marginally prefer Gieseking's 1945 recording of the Emperor with the Berlin Radio Orchestra and Artur Rother (Music and Arts), mainly for a greater sense of urgency, forward momentum, and sublime slow movement. (All this despite the attempts of a Berlin flak tower to add its own unique percussion cadenza during an Allied daylight bombing mission). The Music & Arts recording also features a lovely 1st concerto with Kubelik at the helm..a later recording--no flack guns.
However, if you're looking for an old world combination of 4th/5th, this EMI CD with Galliera/Geiseking is one you might try. Its no accident that when I reach for combinations of the 4th/5th, its seldom that I reach for something featuring a living artist and a recent rave review...why is that? Could it be they seldom add much to what these long-gone artists gave us?
If your definition of "old world" extends through about 1960, see these others as well, both of which I can heartily recommend:
Beethoven: Piano Concertos 4 & 5
Piano Concertos 4 & 5
Gieseking Plays Beethoven Concertos for Piano: No. 1 in C, Op. 15 & No. 5 in E-flat, Op. 73
However, if you insist on something featuring living artists and up-to-the-minute sound, try this;
Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 4 in G Major and Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat Major
Bruce Aoki
5つ星のうち5.0
Beethoven by the Philharmonia
2007年3月18日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
Since more people know about Beethoven's Piano Concerto No.5 ("Emperor"), I will put my focus on his Fourth Concerto here. The Philharmonia Orchestra made many fine recordings of the Fourth Concerto. To begin with, there is the 1946 recording with Schnabel and Dobrowen. Schnabel's playing is always musical and engaging even when he is totally wrong. Notice how he lacks the discipline to play sixteenth notes evenly in the third movement (starting with bar 110). Gilels and Ludwig made their version in 1957 with the Philharmonia which many critics have raved about. Gilels of course plays the piano beautifully, but as usual with this pianist, this is great playing without much intelligence.
In 1962, the Philharmonia had Hans Richter-Haaser with Kertesz conducting the Fourth Concerto. Richter-Haaser's playing is excellent, intelligent, and sensitive. Reissued by Testament, this is arguably the greatest recording of this concerto ever made. The sound quality is surprisingly good.
Gieseking and Karajan's Fourth was made in 1953. This recording has all the musicality and techinical finesse of the Richter-Haaser/Kertesz recording with even more elegance and extra care. For example, in the first movement exposition, there is a violin accompaniment at bars 152-154 which no conductor except Karajan bothers to care about. This little insignificant passage, under Karajan, is molded and shaped to compliment Gieseking's exquisite playing. Incidentally, Gieseking uses Beethoven's short cadenza for the first movement. The problem with this recording is the sound quality. It is dim and fuzzy, similar to the Mozart Horn Concertos Karajan made with Dennis Brain in the same year. But no one seems to have been bothered by the poor sound since that Mozart recording is considered to be one of the greatest recordings ever made.
To experience sheer beauty of piano playing in Beethoven's Fourth, I recommend Joseph Hofmann's live performance with Barbirolli conducting from 1941. Despite the terrible sound quality and not-so-perfect playing (Hofmann did not have the luxury of digital editing!), this performance is special. This recording is noteworthy also for the first movement cadenza. Hofmann does not use either one of the two Beethoven cadenzas. Instead, he uses one by Erno Dohnanyi. What a treat! There is also a 1943 concert performance that Hofmann did with Mitropoulos which was recently released by Music & Arts.
In 1962, the Philharmonia had Hans Richter-Haaser with Kertesz conducting the Fourth Concerto. Richter-Haaser's playing is excellent, intelligent, and sensitive. Reissued by Testament, this is arguably the greatest recording of this concerto ever made. The sound quality is surprisingly good.
Gieseking and Karajan's Fourth was made in 1953. This recording has all the musicality and techinical finesse of the Richter-Haaser/Kertesz recording with even more elegance and extra care. For example, in the first movement exposition, there is a violin accompaniment at bars 152-154 which no conductor except Karajan bothers to care about. This little insignificant passage, under Karajan, is molded and shaped to compliment Gieseking's exquisite playing. Incidentally, Gieseking uses Beethoven's short cadenza for the first movement. The problem with this recording is the sound quality. It is dim and fuzzy, similar to the Mozart Horn Concertos Karajan made with Dennis Brain in the same year. But no one seems to have been bothered by the poor sound since that Mozart recording is considered to be one of the greatest recordings ever made.
To experience sheer beauty of piano playing in Beethoven's Fourth, I recommend Joseph Hofmann's live performance with Barbirolli conducting from 1941. Despite the terrible sound quality and not-so-perfect playing (Hofmann did not have the luxury of digital editing!), this performance is special. This recording is noteworthy also for the first movement cadenza. Hofmann does not use either one of the two Beethoven cadenzas. Instead, he uses one by Erno Dohnanyi. What a treat! There is also a 1943 concert performance that Hofmann did with Mitropoulos which was recently released by Music & Arts.
Gray
5つ星のうち5.0
Excellent
2012年12月12日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
I've been searching for the "right" version of these concertos for a long time, and I think that I've finally found it. The playing is wonderful, both technically and pianistically (Gieseking was a true musician), the tempos are brisk but not pushed, orchestral support is fine, and sound quality (through headphones - so I heard everything!) is really very good for 1950s stereo. There is good balance between piano and orchestra, with plenty of rich and satisfying bass.
A couple of things stand out that I would like to mention.
1) Gieseking plays quite briskly. This is not laid-back Beethoven. If you are used to a slow pace, then you may initially be startled. But the playing never sounds rushed, just quick, and I think it is very good that way. Toscanini took the same approach with the Beethoven symphonies, and the effect is exhilarating without sacrificing any of the inherent beauty.
2) Gieseking plays the alternate cadenza in the 4th concerto. It seemed odd to me at first, a bit disjointed, not in the same gentle spirit of the 4th. But I'm sure that he had good reasons, and may even have chosen it exactly for the contrast with the rest of the concerto. Who knows; we can't ask him.
3) These two concertos are quite different. The 4th is peaceful and serene; and the 5th is punchy, dignified but playful. Gieseking plays them just that way, just the right way.
All told, excellent performances and very good sound. Highest recommendation.
A couple of things stand out that I would like to mention.
1) Gieseking plays quite briskly. This is not laid-back Beethoven. If you are used to a slow pace, then you may initially be startled. But the playing never sounds rushed, just quick, and I think it is very good that way. Toscanini took the same approach with the Beethoven symphonies, and the effect is exhilarating without sacrificing any of the inherent beauty.
2) Gieseking plays the alternate cadenza in the 4th concerto. It seemed odd to me at first, a bit disjointed, not in the same gentle spirit of the 4th. But I'm sure that he had good reasons, and may even have chosen it exactly for the contrast with the rest of the concerto. Who knows; we can't ask him.
3) These two concertos are quite different. The 4th is peaceful and serene; and the 5th is punchy, dignified but playful. Gieseking plays them just that way, just the right way.
All told, excellent performances and very good sound. Highest recommendation.
anonymae
5つ星のうち5.0
Great and important recording.
2021年12月9日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
Although I can’t always say Gieseking was my favorite Beethoven player (he was good, but one of his earlier recordings of op.53 is a bit of a mechanical wonder but that’s about it), this recording is truly one of the the pianist’s best. Beautifully delicate and appropriately muscular and explosive playing when called for but I also think Gallieri’s orchestra and direction of it have, at least, an equal contribution to the success of this work/recording. One of the most important recordings of this work imho.