Symphony 5 / Rite of Spring
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- 製品サイズ : 12.4 x 14.2 x 1.19 cm; 85.9 g
- メーカー : Telarc
- EAN : 0089408061523
- 製造元リファレンス : 089408061523
- SPARSコード : DDD
- レーベル : Telarc
- ASIN : B0002VEXIM
- ディスク枚数 : 1
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Barry Guerrero
5つ星のうち5.0
a truly great Nielsen 5 coupled toa better-than-average "Rite of Spring" (and with excellent sound)
2015年5月23日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
My heading pretty much says it all. I own numerous recordings of Nielsen's powerful fifth symphony, and this Paavo Jarvi one may be the most persuasive of them all. In the first movement, he isn't afraid to coax his snare drummer into trying to stop the momentum of the entire orchestra (who win out, of course). The second movement is beautifully performed and comes to quite a culmination at the end. Not to sound like a Toyota commercial, but I could hardly ask for anything more in this performance.
I also have tons of "Rite of Spring" recordings, ranging from Pierre Monteux and Stravinsky himself, to the Philadelphia Orchestra's latest entry with wunderkind Yannick Nezet-Seguin (which is very good). This Paavo Jarvi one, while not perfect, ranks right up there with the best of them. For one thing, the sound quality and the balances within the orchestra could hardly be better. There's also plenty of energy and power to spare. This is a unique coupling of two of the 20th Century's most seminal works. For me, this a real keeper - so much so that I own two copies of it: one sacd/cd hybrid version that I keep filed under Nielsen, and a regular 'blue book' CD version that I keep under Stravinsky. But I think you'd be happy with just one.
I also have tons of "Rite of Spring" recordings, ranging from Pierre Monteux and Stravinsky himself, to the Philadelphia Orchestra's latest entry with wunderkind Yannick Nezet-Seguin (which is very good). This Paavo Jarvi one, while not perfect, ranks right up there with the best of them. For one thing, the sound quality and the balances within the orchestra could hardly be better. There's also plenty of energy and power to spare. This is a unique coupling of two of the 20th Century's most seminal works. For me, this a real keeper - so much so that I own two copies of it: one sacd/cd hybrid version that I keep filed under Nielsen, and a regular 'blue book' CD version that I keep under Stravinsky. But I think you'd be happy with just one.
Jonno
5つ星のうち2.0
Limp, awful rite, competent Nielsen
2010年8月25日に英国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
I do not find it within me to be kind to these quite dismal performances. Jarvi is a very understated conductor, to put it mildly. This Rite is actually boring - quite possibly the worst I have ever heard on vinyl, CD or SACD over the past 50 years. With about 20 or so recordings of this piece in my collection, that's quite an achivement. Although the playing is safe and competent throughout, this reading is utterly without menace, violence, thrill or excitement. It makes Karajan's limp and justifiably harangued performance of the vinyl age (his first one) sound like a riot of excitement by comparison...
Stravinsky's comments on that particular effort... "tempi di hoochie-coochie" and "duller than Disney's dying dinosaurs" seem tailor-made for Jarvi's dull-as-ditchwater version 40 years on. Ouch, now THAT's what I call 'telling it like it is. Nice one, Igor.
This one wouldn't cause a riot in a dustbin, which is where this disc was filed after one audition.
Rites on SACD are tricky. Janson's with the Concertgebouw shares the overall limpness and safe quality of the Jarvi, although it's better played by the RCO. Stravinsky's own version on CBS/Sony in wonderful, but poorly recorded. Great performance but poor sound also amply describes the fine Cleveland/Boulez version on CBS/Sony.
Actually, I find the RPO/Simonov version on Membran the only extant version on SACD graced by both a good performance as well as good (although blatantly multi-miked) sound. I have high hopes for the forthcoming Litton/Bergen version on BIS. I can guarantee that Litton will not underplay this piece.
The Nielsen 5 on this disc is a better reading, by far, than the Stravinsky. It's actually competent. But compare with Horenstein, Schmidt or Blomstedt shows what's missing here. It sounds too generic, and utterly lacks the required icy Nordic passion. So, zero stars for the Rite performance and 3 for the Nielsen- giving 1.5 stars overall.
The sound? I am not a great fan of Telarc sound, it's well known (excepting some of their fine earlier Soundstream recordings). However, they give the Rite generally accurate sound with truly staggering dynamic range and fine-sounding low percussion. In common with many of their later recordings, however, it's very distant and softened in the process i.e it's not transparent enough for fully illuminated back-stage.
The Nielsen has noticeably better sound quality - somewhat closer in perspective and tonally far more even and transparent. So the sound gets 5 stars for the Nielsen and 4.5 for the Rite. But this can't compensate for the wholly deficient performances. of course.
I would, perhaps, be kinder to Jarvi if he hadn't done this before. I regard him as a serial killer of fine 20th century music. I present as evidence his Bartok Concerto for Orchestra (albeit shared with a far better Lutoslawski) on Telarc, plus his Britten Young Persons' Guide. All of these all-time lows in performance. I rest my case, m'lud.
Stravinsky's comments on that particular effort... "tempi di hoochie-coochie" and "duller than Disney's dying dinosaurs" seem tailor-made for Jarvi's dull-as-ditchwater version 40 years on. Ouch, now THAT's what I call 'telling it like it is. Nice one, Igor.
This one wouldn't cause a riot in a dustbin, which is where this disc was filed after one audition.
Rites on SACD are tricky. Janson's with the Concertgebouw shares the overall limpness and safe quality of the Jarvi, although it's better played by the RCO. Stravinsky's own version on CBS/Sony in wonderful, but poorly recorded. Great performance but poor sound also amply describes the fine Cleveland/Boulez version on CBS/Sony.
Actually, I find the RPO/Simonov version on Membran the only extant version on SACD graced by both a good performance as well as good (although blatantly multi-miked) sound. I have high hopes for the forthcoming Litton/Bergen version on BIS. I can guarantee that Litton will not underplay this piece.
The Nielsen 5 on this disc is a better reading, by far, than the Stravinsky. It's actually competent. But compare with Horenstein, Schmidt or Blomstedt shows what's missing here. It sounds too generic, and utterly lacks the required icy Nordic passion. So, zero stars for the Rite performance and 3 for the Nielsen- giving 1.5 stars overall.
The sound? I am not a great fan of Telarc sound, it's well known (excepting some of their fine earlier Soundstream recordings). However, they give the Rite generally accurate sound with truly staggering dynamic range and fine-sounding low percussion. In common with many of their later recordings, however, it's very distant and softened in the process i.e it's not transparent enough for fully illuminated back-stage.
The Nielsen has noticeably better sound quality - somewhat closer in perspective and tonally far more even and transparent. So the sound gets 5 stars for the Nielsen and 4.5 for the Rite. But this can't compensate for the wholly deficient performances. of course.
I would, perhaps, be kinder to Jarvi if he hadn't done this before. I regard him as a serial killer of fine 20th century music. I present as evidence his Bartok Concerto for Orchestra (albeit shared with a far better Lutoslawski) on Telarc, plus his Britten Young Persons' Guide. All of these all-time lows in performance. I rest my case, m'lud.
Transfigured Knight
5つ星のうち2.0
Mediocre At Best
2009年12月19日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
Paavo Jarvi's reading of Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" is too soft-edged and not vicious enough. This performance makes me think of Michael Tilson Thomas, because it's just way too easy-going and doesn't have enough bite. That said there are obviously better recordings than this one: Seiji Ozawa/BSO on RCA, Bernstein/NYPO on Sony, Levi/ASO on Telarc, and Stravinsky's own reading on Sony.
The reading of Nielsen's 5th is also pretty weak. Jarvi fails to capture the Nordic essence of the symphony. Herbert Blomstedt's reading on Decca is, in my opinion, the benchmark. Jarvi fails to bring the kind of excitement this symphony needs to make it convincing.
All of this said, the audio quality is excellent and the playing from the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra is excellent, but these two factors cannot save this recording from the dismal conducting of Jarvi. Buy at your own risk.
The reading of Nielsen's 5th is also pretty weak. Jarvi fails to capture the Nordic essence of the symphony. Herbert Blomstedt's reading on Decca is, in my opinion, the benchmark. Jarvi fails to bring the kind of excitement this symphony needs to make it convincing.
All of this said, the audio quality is excellent and the playing from the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra is excellent, but these two factors cannot save this recording from the dismal conducting of Jarvi. Buy at your own risk.
J. Donohue
5つ星のうち1.0
Performances better than recording
2006年6月8日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
I found the strings on this recording oddly flat, as if detail in strings had been strangely filtered out of the mix. Similar effects were observed on my Telarc SACD of Jarvi and the Cincinnati Symphony recording of Dvorak's New World Symphony, so I imagine that this has more to do with the recording technicians than the conductor and his orchestra. Despite (or perhaps due to) playing this disc on high-end equipment (Sony XA9000es SACD player, Rotel amplifiers, and B&W 803 speakers), I was disappointed.
Apple
5つ星のうち3.0
Where is truly “immersion” sound?
2017年4月16日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済みAmazonで購入
I like this recording –but the sound is simply too flat for me
I guess I am hopelessly spoiled by my 7.1 sound system.
I miss the “movie mix” on most, if not all of the classical music SACD/DVD
Unfortunately the usual SACD/DVD uses mostly the front speakers with the side and back speakers for “auditorium ambiance”.
I fully realize that the orchestra is in the front of the concert hall and the orchestra surrounds no one at a performance.
The “movie mix” uses the full 7.1 speakers completely surrounding the viewer/listener with sound
Telarc label – one of the best for CD classical recordings use the “auditorium ambiance” for all of their SACD recordings.
The depth of the Telarc recordings never matches a film soundtrack.
• Listen to one of the few true SACD - Bach: The Four Great Toccatas & Fugues Super Audio CD - E. Power Biggs (Sony Classical ASIN: B00008PX99)
More film sound designers need to record SACD & DVD classical recordings.
I miss the “movie mix” the truly “immersion” sound
I guess I am hopelessly spoiled by my 7.1 sound system.
I miss the “movie mix” on most, if not all of the classical music SACD/DVD
Unfortunately the usual SACD/DVD uses mostly the front speakers with the side and back speakers for “auditorium ambiance”.
I fully realize that the orchestra is in the front of the concert hall and the orchestra surrounds no one at a performance.
The “movie mix” uses the full 7.1 speakers completely surrounding the viewer/listener with sound
Telarc label – one of the best for CD classical recordings use the “auditorium ambiance” for all of their SACD recordings.
The depth of the Telarc recordings never matches a film soundtrack.
• Listen to one of the few true SACD - Bach: The Four Great Toccatas & Fugues Super Audio CD - E. Power Biggs (Sony Classical ASIN: B00008PX99)
More film sound designers need to record SACD & DVD classical recordings.
I miss the “movie mix” the truly “immersion” sound