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Symphony No 7 (Hybr)

Ludwig van Beethoven (作曲), Carlos Kleiber (指揮), Bavarian State Opera Orchestra (オーケストラ) 形式: CD
4.6 5つ星のうち4.6 16個の評価
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  • 製品サイズ ‏ : ‎ 12.07 x 13.97 x 1.27 cm; 100.36 g
  • メーカー ‏ : ‎ Orfeo D'or
  • EAN ‏ : ‎ 0675754890322
  • レーベル ‏ : ‎ Orfeo D'or
  • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B000EDWLY6
  • ディスク枚数 ‏ : ‎ 1
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sunny
5つ星のうち5.0 ヤンソンス、お得意の曲の美と躍動感あふれる、エグクナイショスタコ。
2012年4月18日に日本でレビュー済み
今が旬、美しい音の響くホールで、この曲は代名詞、得意技としているヤンソンスの美演。何度も繰り返して演奏されただけあって、安定、高水準の躍動感の名演奏、只、ヤンソンスのショスタコ―ヴッチは何時もの様に、真面目で、ショスタコの持つ、エグサ、暗さは控えめ。でも、この上手いオケと録音の良さで、この曲の代表的演奏の仲間入り。
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bias
5つ星のうち5.0 ああ、カルロス。
2006年3月26日に日本でレビュー済み
感動。
10代の末、この曲を初めてフルトベングラー＆VPOのモノラル盤で知ったときの驚愕、
そして20代の半ば、クライバー＆VPOの名盤で聴いた時の肌があわ立つような衝撃が
蘇って来ました。
第2楽章の後半あたりから最終楽章まで、楽神とベートーベンがともに降臨したとしか
表現できない壮絶な演奏に、魂が遊離してしまいそうなほど。

……それにしても皆さん、リリースされてから随分たつのに、
どうしてレビューがないんでしょうか。
私なんかより遥かに適切かつ感動的なコメントを発せられる聴き手は、
アマゾンの源流支流にいくらでも潜んでいると確信しますが。
やはり、VPOとの完成度に軍配が上がる、ということでしょうか。
確かにVPO盤は素晴しい。しかし、なんといっても手兵バイエルン国立とのライブですよ。
そして、この曲ほど、クライバーという人にふさわしい楽曲はなかったんではないでしょうか。
例の4番以上に（6番との比較は保留）、今後クライバーを語るときに指折られるべき名演、
いや凄演だと思います。

ちなみに、怠け者の私に、早春この盤が遂にリリースされたことを教えてくれたのは、
新宿三丁目の某有名Barのマスターです。深く感謝。
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野火止林太郎
5つ星のうち4.0 『レニングラード』はクラシックになった！
2006年12月9日に日本でレビュー済み
まずは、模範的な『レニングラード』。楽器の鳴りはよく、すべての動機が明確に聴こえ、なおかつ伸びやか。強弱の振幅にも余裕があり、スケールも十分だが、決して威圧的なのではなく、いわば「音楽性が優れている」演奏と言えるのではないか。

しかし、その分、この作曲家の凄みというものを感じる部分は少ない。今やこの曲もメジャーなポピュラー曲となって、その意味では新しいスタンダードなディスクがこれなのかもしれない。ニューイヤー・コンサートにも登場した旧東側の出世頭と言えそうなヤンソンスではあるが、オスロフィルとやっていた時の、細部の曲想が凍てつくようなチャイコフスキーが懐かしい。その点、少し気がかり？　いや、それは無い物ねだりの類か。まあ「金持ち喧嘩せず」といった評言が一番当たっているかもしれない。
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Baron
5つ星のうち5.0 音質良し
2022年4月12日に日本でレビュー済み
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演奏も悪くない。
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5つ星のうち5.0 Five Stars
2016年10月24日に英国でレビュー済み
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November Whiskey Hotel
5つ星のうち5.0 An Essential Seventh
2008年7月29日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済み
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Carlos Kleiber gave us one of the great recorded Beethoven Sevenths, with the Vienna Philharmonic on Deutsche Gramophon. He also committed an excellent live performance of the symphony to video with the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, now available on a Philips DVD. Do we really need another Kleiber Seventh? Surprisingly, the answer is yes. What is more surprising, perhaps, is that this stunning account of the work hasn't seen the light of day until recently. It beggars belief that the Bavarian State Orchestra performance on this disc should eclipse the other two, but that is exactly the case. To be fair, the BSO is not quite in the same league as the Vienna or Concertgebouw orchestras in terms of opulence and tonal splendor. But what the BSO may lack in superior virtuosity, it more than makes up for in enthusiasm and energy, and to my ears it sells this music in a way that the other two orchestras just don't. More so than in any other performance I have heard of the work, irrespective of conductor, this Beethoven Seventh blazes with a white heat, threatening to ignite everything around it. It is as if Kleiber and the Bavarians all ate speed-laced Wheaties prior to coming on stage, exuberantly playing the lights out of this masterpiece. And yet, for all its fire and intensity, the performance never sounds hectic or disorganized, and is always of a piece with itself. Kleiber's characteristic attention to detail, structure and texture remains intact. The sense of occasion does not dim with repeated listenings, either. This performance has a rightness about it, a certain inevitability that, to paraphrase another reviewer, makes the listener feel this is exactly how this music should be played. This is easily Kleiber's best Beethoven Seventh on record, and one of the great Beethoven symphony recordings, period.

This recording is equally compelling sonically.* Those familiar with the sonics of Kleiber's recording of Beethoven's Fourth Symphony with the BSO, also on Orfeo, will find similar sound here. The orchestra has great presence and immediacy; brass and timpani are especially thrillingly caught, almost startlingly so. I did notice an occasional "sheen" on some of the upper strings that slightly betrays the recording's origins. There is also audible analog tape hiss in the quieter passages - not horrible, but noticeable on close listening. Moreover, this is a "warts and all" live recording, complete with audience noises, chair squeaks, sharp intakes of breath (presumably from Kleiber), the occasional instrumental gaffe, and the like. The liner notes list only a single recording date - May 3, 1982 - and from the sound of it, this is an unedited single take, unfolding in real time. The acoustic is very much one of a hall with an audience in it, quite different from the open resonance of the empty Musikverein featured on the DG recording. Nevertheless, the sound on this disc is generally outstanding, besting both the Vienna and Concertgebouw recordings, with a vividness to match the performance it captures. (In hearing this recording, one is left to imagine how similarly wonderful the original recording of Kleiber's one and only performance of Beethoven's Pastoral symphony with this orchestra must have sounded before the master tape disintegrated. Such a loss.)

Despite my enthusiasm for this recording, I should point out some relatively minor misgivings I have with it. The first is Kleiber's omission of exposition repeats, both in the first and fourth movements. The repeats were a welcome feature of his Vienna recording; I do miss them here. Also, Kleiber divided the string desks antiphonally in Vienna, which allows the listener to hear the dialog between them in the finale to thrilling effect; here, both desks are seated together on the left, which slightly diminishes the impact. Still, neither point is enough to mar in any substantial way an otherwise outstanding performance.

It is easy to see why the folks at Orfeo felt this recording was worthy of release, despite an already glutted market of Beethoven Sevenths - Kleiber's or otherwise. To have withheld it would have been to commit a crime against music lovers. We can only wonder why Kleiber himself was so reluctant to release the treasures that are his live recordings. This one is truly in the essential class.

*Disclaimer: I do not have an SACD player, so all comments regarding sound quality refer only to the LPCM stereo layer.
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Mogulmeister
5つ星のうち5.0 The best performance ever? No. An excellent performance? Yes.
2012年5月31日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済み
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I can't challenge the consensus opinion of other reviewers that this is an excellent performance--it certainly is. But it does have some significant issues, and in my opinion, this is definitely NOT superior to Kleiber's legendary Vienna Philharmonic (VPO) performance ( Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 7 ), which to my ears, is still the recording to get.

There is very little conceptual difference between this performance with the Bavarian State Orchestra (Bav.SO), and Kleiber's 1970s performance with the Vienna Philharmonic on DG. The differences lie largely in execution.

On the plus side, there is an added level of energy in the Bav.SO 4th movement, which is distinctive as compared to the VPO performance. And the "brass moments" in this performance are marginally more prominent, in a positive manner, than in the VPO performance.

But there are negative trade-offs too, and for me, they point to the VPO performance being the better of the two. The 1st movement in this performance seems to not create the same irresistible momentum that Kleiber achieves in the VPO performance. Also, the very end of the finale of the VPO performance has a "bloom" that is so memorable and moving that Kleiber fails to achieve in this performance. But most seriously of all, the Bav.SO is just not in the same league as the VPO. The principal oboist in the Bav.SO is truly awful--it's disconcerting to listen to him/her because the oboist's tone and "attack" are just so distracting and disruptive. I couldn't stand listening to the oboist's solo moments.

It's hard to imagine anyone listening to this performance who would fail to enjoy it. But that said, to my ears, it's not a toss-up as to whether or not the VPO performance is better than this one. The VPO performance has a clear advantage (even without respect to cost--this one cost me $22, whereas the VPO recording costs less than $10 and also includes Kleiber's legendary performance of the 5th symphony also). To my ears, the VPO performance still remains a clear first choice.

But even with these problems, it would be misguided to call this much less than a 5-star performance (4.5 stars would be fair). Virtually all of the other reviewers proclaim this as Kleiber's best recording of the 7th, and some even call it the greatest 7th of all time. Respectfully, I disagree with both assessments. The VPO 7th is.
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Kris Marker
5つ星のうち4.0 Racy!
2011年2月23日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済み
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This performance is pretty racy. Out of the box it's got a zesty energy setting the tone, maintained for the entire 1st movement. The cute little quiet sections are handled with utmost adroitness. And the big and loud sections are never overdone. After a nice pause, the 2nd movement begins nicely, but it wants to be taken easier. Though the speed isn't terrible, the movement's majestic quality isn't felt. The 3rd movement is exactly right. The 4th has the same shortcoming as the 2nd, I'm afraid. In fact, you don't quite know the symphony is over, because the final cadences are so quick they don't sound final. I think the audience felt similarly, despite knowing the piece. One positive of the fast pace is that sections such as around 0:53 & 4:00, which are (compositionally) strained, go by quickly. Similarly, in the 2nd movement, I can imagine things could get heavy and leaden pretty easily, so the quickness certainly prevents that.

Since the recording is live, as one reviewer put it, you get "warts and all", including audience coughing, dropping of programs, even a blowing of nose between movements. There's also a couple of clicks which sound like an audio cable being handled or stepped on maybe. But as has been noted in prior reviews the sound is exceptionally clear.

Incidentally, if you like the Strauss family's music, Kleiber recorded a fantastic concert on New Year's Eve 1988/89.
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5つ星のうち5.0 My God
2010年3月2日にアメリカ合衆国でレビュー済み
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I forgot for a moment that its a recording of Beethoven's Seventh and just marveled at the fierce passion of true artistry married to mind-bogglingly precise craft. I saw Beverly Sills interviewed and she said that it was truly perfect for her only once. This has got to be that moment for these musicians, my god - the quality and attention to listening, response to one another is so incredible, each instrument becoming one with the whole.

I was stunned, riveted, moved to spiritual awe.
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